Just Updated 9/22/2000 This is a very long update so please take your time :) 6400 Zone Forums image needed: (This is just a continuation from last update) I was wondering if any of you artists would mind making a design logo for my forums? I wanted a image that can represent the forums and place it along with the other images above. I'm thinking of placing it where the 6400 image is right now, so make it about the size of the Amazon image. Thanks. Should you rush out to try OSX? From NewerTech: Here is a link to some info that NewerTech posted on the issue of upgrading to OSX. Basically they are trying to warn people not to rush into anything just because its new and exciting. They make some very good arguments for staying with your current OS and not worrying about OSX yet. I suggest you all go read it if your considering OSX right now. I fit into the group of "because its new" and "cause I can" :) More OSX info: Here is a link to info from MacWeek on OS X. And here is a link to Clan Mac Gaming's info on game compatibility under OSX. Basically it has a list of current games that run either under the Classic or Carbon environments and how well they work. Remember OSX is beta so things may change by the final release. Here is a link to MacWorlds OSX Survival Guide. Has some good tips on how to get around in Aqua. Has anyone tried OSX PB on their 6400/6500 yet? I'm just curious to know if it worked or not :) I have an order pending and I hope it arrives soon! More on OSX System Disk hack for older Macs: I found the same info that I posted on my site last update on Accelerate Your Mac's site but from a different person. Seems others have found the same solution for getting OSX's System Disk utility to work on non-OSX supported Macs. Here is his info. [OS X Beta ResEdit Hack Tip for Clones: - Mac clones are not a supported machine and ResEdit hacking is not for everyone, but this reader sent a tip: " Hey Mike, I have a Umax S900 and have tried some things on getting OS X/Darwin to boot on my machine. The only way to get the system disk to open(and be effective) was to open a copy of the System Disk control panel in ResEdit, opened OFtb resource 128 and changing the first box to my machine's gestalt ID (67 or 69), closing that box, opening OFtc resource 128 and changing the box with AAPL,8500 to ????,8500 (if the machine were based on a 8500 motherboard that is). Then save, quit, and restart. It should now open, without error, and be effective for choosing a boot disk. Kyle"] I did try the Hack with ResEdit on my copy from DP4 and it didn't work :( First I had to use Machine ID 58 instead of 512 which is what my reader used (he had a 5500 and not a 6400). This did keep the error message from showing but it would not allow me to pick the OSX partition on the CD to boot. It only showed Classic OS volumes as bootable. I tried to click on the shaded out OSX CD and then reboot but my 6400 refused to reboot? It just powered on the supply and stayed dark! I had to zap the PRAM to get back to normal again! Back to the drawing board :( Update on TV tuner using QuickCam input only: I have not found a solution to this yet but there may be a reason why? Ian sent me the ReadMe file from Connectix's QuickCam software and there is an interesting point in the second to last paragraph of the Known Problems section. It basically states an issue with older Quadras but may also relate to our systems. It says that Apples Video Player only uses the first video source it finds and that's it. They suggest to try running the QuickCam software before Apples Software so the QuickCam software gets control of the QuickCam and all that's left for Apples Video Player is the TV tuner. They say the only fix is for Apple to change their software in a future update. Maybe they did but I don't use this software so I cannot verify it? If anyone can verify that Apples Video Player can pick multiple sources, please email me. Thanks Orion Rage 128 with Vimages G3 user info: I thought I would post a little info from Kin who wrote to let me know all is well with his Orion video card and a Vimage G3. [I just wanted to let you know that I recently bought an ATI Rage Orion 128 16Mb video card for my 6400 and installed it in my 6400 running OS 9.0.4. I also have a Vimage 240 L2 card as well. When I had the old 4Mb ATI XClaim VR card, I would get the white box in the top, left corner when the Vimage extension came up during startup. But after installing the Rage Orion card, the white box disappeared! And, I didn't need the ATI patch to run the card. I actually, at first, didn't even install the ATI software and OS 9.0.4 ran the Rage Orion perfectly. But I did go back and installed the ATI software that came with the card for the Rage Orion and it still has performed flawlessly.] The patch he mentions to get the drivers to work were needed for the original 4.0 ATI Universal drivers. I suspect that ATI got the patch incorporated into the current drivers. Thanks Kin I-Jam 101 USB MP3 player info: Ralph sent me some info on his new I-Jam 101 MP3 player he received. Thanks Ralph. [Hi Tom, the I-Jam 101 came today, It has a CR-101 USB to MMC station in translucent clear and blueberry, the player in black, a neck cord, soft belt clip case, 2 16meg MMCs, ear insert type head phones and a CD-ROM with the extension installer for the USB station and Sound Jam player/converter application, lite version. It seems to work fine, but I am new to making the smallest best sounding MP3 files to copy onto the MMCs. I picked the high auto 64/128 bite quality settings and got average 4 to 9 meg files for each CD music file I converted. So I have to fool around with the compression settings in Sound Jam to balance file size with fidelity. Conversion at 64/128 bite rate was about 5 to 10 minutes per track (Sonnet L2 400Mhz G3 upgrade), not too slow. And you can run other applications with the converter running in the background. The FM on the IJAM sounds great and the big MP3 files I made also sound great. Need better headphones though, the ear insert ones that came with the player sound ok but hurt if used too long. Only problem I encountered is with copying files to the MMC. After installing the IJAM station extension, when you insert a MMC a floppy extension appears on the desktop. You just drag and drop the files onto the disk icon. Only problem is if you try to copy more data than the MMC can hold you sometimes get a lockup. Also if you just pull the MMC out of the station, the system gives you two error windows that you did not eject properly and you may have lost data. The proper way to remove a MMC is to drop the disk icon into the trash and you get a window saying its now ok to remove the MMC. More as I discover it. Oh yea, I converted the CD music files to MP3 with Virtual Memory on and they came out fine.] I think a lot of USB devices that act like removable media to the Mac will have the same problem as Ralph describes. Apple will need to address this in their USB drivers or you'll always have to act like your ejecting the disk/device before you can remove the USB cable from it. Later he wrote to let me know he had some sound choppiness with QT and MP3's. He also found out why. It seems that ATI's extensions may be causing all the sound stuttering? Thanks Ralph. [Hi Tom, thanks, I had two problems mixed together. I found out the MP3s play fine if I just unplug the I-Jam USB station. For some reason when its left plugged in without a MMC in it (I didn't try with one left in yet) it makes the MP3 music files skip randomly. Unplugging it fixes the issue. The Quicktime choppy sound playback and Sound Test Control Panel is not the Sonnet G3 L2 cards fault. With Base extensions and the Crescendo extension on it works fine. I isolated it to the ATI drivers listed below and made the offending ones with a *. I may have a missmatched ATI extensions set and may have to go back to the older set I was using with OS8.6 (I let the OS9.0.4 put in its newer set (the ones not made). Since the TV was is stable now I did not think I had a mismatched set. But since I need both the TV for video input/output and QuickTime to work together I may have to go back to the older set. I will try your suggestions first before going back to the older ATI extensions and see if that fixes it. The funny thing is its not all QT movies exhibit the sound choppiness, only the compressed ones I have using Sorenson Video compression and Raw 8 bit unsmoothed sound, like the ones on my macworld web site. Thanks Ralph My system is a PM6500 with your ATI xclaim 128 VR with TV. Control Panel: ATI Displays 706,010 bytes 2.7.1 APPC ATIv Extensions: (when the ones marked with * are off, QT is OK) ATI 3D Accelerator 776,495 bytes 4.9.7 shlb tnsl * ATI Desktop Video Extension 14,898 bytes 1.5 INIT ATIå» ATI Driver Update 725,363 bytes 1.5.3 ndrv ATIå© * ATI Extension 99,662 bytes 2.7 INIT ATIv ATI Graphics Accelerator 570,229 bytes 4.9.4 INIT ATI * ATI Mac2TV‰ã¢ Monitor 40,118 bytes 2.7 appe ATI* ATI MPP Manager 59,822 bytes 1.2f1 shlb ATIl * ATI Offscreen Mem Manager 11,812 bytes 2.0.7 shlb ATIs ATI Rage 128 3D Accelerator 739,169 bytes 5.8.1 shlb tnsl ATI Resource Manager 179,200 bytes 2.4.8 shlb ATI * ATI Xclaim VR 128 Driver 103,266 bytes 1.1 ndrv ATI] He is going to try a clean install of ATI's drivers to see if the mix of old and OS 9.0.4 drivers may be causing his problem. Apple Manuals online again: A reader sent me a link to a site hosting Apples Take Apart manuals again. I have it linked from my Help Info page. Just click on the link in the 9/20/2000 update. They may not last very long so get them while they're up :) Apple Developer info: Here is a link to Apples Developer info site. There are topics on everything Apple is working on! Now you can get all the info that Apples developers have access to. Very informative if you feel like reading a lot of techi stuff :) PCI wireless network cards for Macs?: At this time only Macs with built in Airport card slots or PC users with PCI wireless cards can access the internet through devices like Apples Airport Base Station wirelessly but I got a tip from John that Farallon is working on one for Macs! This would be great as it would bridge the gap for users of older Macs that want to run a wireless network. Thanks John. [FYI - You might recall that I recently asked you about locating a wireless PCI Ethernet card for the Macintosh. (?) Anyway, at your suggestion, I asked Farallon if they had one. "Dr. Farallon" replied that Farallon does not currently have a PCI wireless card for the Macintosh but expects to come out with one by December. John] Sonnet makes 7200/8200 G3 upgrade!: Well they finally did it. Now all those 7200/8200 users can finally get a G3 upgrade. Click here for more info. Apparently they did it through the PCI slot and to get the RAM up to speed they moved the RAM slots onto the PCI card! This is about what I was expecting to happen for us way back before the L2 G3 came out. I guess they read my mind :) Bus Doubling from Sonnet: Here is a link to info on Sonnets new Bus Doubling technology which they used to make the PCI G3 upgrade for the 7200. Basically they take the mother board speed and double it on the PCI card so that faster G3/G4 CPU's can be used. You have to remember that the 7200 only had a 33Mhz bus speed so the max G3 you could get would have been a 330Mhz G3. Not bad but with bus doubling (33Mhz bus to 66Mhz bus) they can go up to a 660Mhz G3 if it existed! This is why they moved the RAM to the PCI card so it can gain the new found speed. I'm not sure if new ram is required or not? Probably since the old RAM won't be up to par for 66Mhz bus speeds. I wouldn't expect this technology to be added to the L2 G3 as the L2 cache slot is very small! PCI cards have plenty of room for the extra circuitry and RAM slots. Would be nice though :) Sonnet 1.4.5 Crescendo updater: I don't know if any of you are aware but Sonnet has updated their G3 driver to 1.4.5. The description of what was changed is below. Mostly sounds like added features for the new 7200 G3 but maybe some other mods where made? Please let me know if it has changed anything for you. Thanks [Description: This unified installer software is required with Crescendo G3/G4 and Encore G4 processor upgrade cards. It must be installed as part of the upgrade process. Version 1.4.5 adds enhanced capabilities for Sonnet upgrades, including the Fortissimo Crescendo G3/NuBus products] EasiExpansion Case for macs: I just saw an add in the latest MacConnection catalog for a PCI expansion chassis called the EasiExpansion T35. It is made by a company called Mobility. It states that the chassis works on PC's and Mac's and has a built it 2 channel IDE controller card and 2 USB ports! There are 3 open PCI slots and a few external and internal drive bays. The price is listed as $599 which is a great price for all of that! If you subtract $99 for the IDE card and $40 for the USB ports that makes the chassis worth only $450. The lowest price I have seen for these. I emailed their sales people for more info on Mac compatibility and here is the reply I got. [Here is a link to the peripherals we have tested http://www.mobl.com/support/compatibility.asp?ProductID=1035&Action=PerInit and also a link to the limitations of the product http://www.mobl.com/support/compatibility.asp?ProductID=1035&Action=LimInit. If you have any other questions please let me know. Thank you for your interest in Mobility Electronics.] They do have a large list of compatible devices but looks like they where all tested on PC's. I asked for more specific Mac info. I'll post it when I receive it. Just to warn any of you wishing to try this, I have tried Farallons PCI ethernet card and ATI's Rage128 card in my chassis (from Magma) and they did not work. The ethernet card was not recognized and the ATI Rage128 locked up after a few minutes of use. This is not to say Mobilities chassis will have the same problem but it might? Basically it depends on how well the PCI card was designed to work over a PCI bridge which is needed to bridge the new PCI bus with the old PCI bus. As with the Magma chassis, the T35 requires a PCI card in the host computer with a cable running to the chassis which is the bridge for both. So your max number of PCI slots becomes 4 since you loose one in the 6400 but with the USB and IDE being supplied in the chassis, you won't need those kind of cards anymore :) Voodoo3 PC BIOS's posted: Here is a link to a page where the host has placed many versions of the Voodoo3 BIOS for those of you that lost yours and want to reflash your card back to PC. He really did it for PC user to get the latest ROM image for their cards but it works for us as well :) New ROM flasher for SGRAM Voodoo3's?: I received some info from Michael on a new V3 ROM flasher app that is supposed to work on V3 cards with SGRAM installed. It seems that 3dfx upgraded their V3 cards from SDRAM to SGRAM which is faster but they did not upgrade the flasher app so many Mac users are not able to flash their new V3's. This utility seems to have come from out of no where as even the site hosting the app doesn't know where he got it? Anyway Michael says it worked great for him and speculates that 3dfx made it but didn't want to show support for the unsupported V3 since the V5 started shipping. Makes some sense and looking at 3dfx'x track record, it could be true? Well, here is his info and please let me know if it works for your SGRAM upgraded V3. Thanks. [I know a lot of readers have had trouble with the Voodoo3 and the 6400 since the introduction of the beta and 3Dfx flasher. I paired my ATI Orion which a lot of people (including ATI) with a Voodoo2, and used it for only one month before I was so sorely depressed with how much better a $30 graphics card was than the ATI, that I went ahead and bought a Voodoo3. I saw the SST ROM chip on the board and immediately identified it as the newer SG-RAM Voodoo3 (reported from http://www.xlr8yourmac.com last July) and downloaded the new flasher and have had no problems from the Voodoo3. I have noticed much to my delight that with the 3Dfx drivers installed (instead of ATI's) that the system uses at least 5MB less RAM (21MB down from about 25-26 with the full ATI suite from Multimedia Update 1.0). 2D performance is superb, the only defect being noticeable if I try to play a Quicktime movie at fullscreen--the Voodoo3 runs without much if any framedrop with larger screens but misses the smoothening that ATI's Quicktime acceleration provides for odd movie resolutions. With the single Voodoo3 housed in here Metronome and Gauge Pro report a constant 31 to 35c, down from the 39 to 45 with the other two cards installed. I couldn't be a happy camper. Send a big shout out on your site to any readers who felt burned by a nonfunctional Voodoo3 to grab that new flasher, some of the problems people have had could be related to this. The flasher available from 3Dfx's site will work with the ROM images they provide if the ROM chip on your card says "Atmel." If it says SST then it is a newer one with SG-RAM and the flasher from their site won't work. A reader at xlr8yourmac learned this when he happened to have two, one that flashed and one that didn't, and compared them physically. He put this information out there so 3Dfx couldn't complain that they didn't know what was the problem anymore--and magically, two weeks later there was a flasher for the SST ROM cards. I don't think that's magic, personally, I think once 3Dfx learned about it they whipped up a proper flasher but while working on their new VSA-100 they couldn't officially "support" an unsupported Voodoo3 on Macs yet again so it becomes leaked in a controlled fashion. Just look at the website it comes from, if you go by that alone the new flasher just appeared from the air. Here is the issue with the flasher: 1. If you have a Voodoo3 whose ROM BIOS chip says "SST" on it (mine was covered by a small white sticker), then you need to use the new flasher. If your ROM BIOS chip says Atmel on it, then it will work with the old flasher. If the Voodoo3 requires the SST flasher, then the old flasher will give an "EEPROM unknown!" error when attempting to flash. 2. First download the regular flasher (most get the beta 12 from 3dfx but there are some who prefer the beta 11 for various reasons, I got the 12), then visit http://www.geocities.com/jhurshman/ The above site will initiate a download of a new flasher that can read the newer ROM BIOS chip. Take the beta 11/12 flasher out of its unstuffed folder and throw it away, then drop the new flasher into the folder in its place. 3. Reading through your old Voodoo3 info page I read at least a few Voodoo flashing failures that I seriously suspect were due to incorrect flashing, so for a little flashing walkthrough, insert the card then replace the logic board in the tower. Start the Mac with video from the standard socket, then activate the flasher, it'll say the card is detected in one of your two slots, enter the slot number it identifies to flash through that slot. It will say an Intel x86 ROM is found on the chip and do you really wanna flash, type Y for yes then return. Then you have the chance to save your original x86 ROM--there's some guy on the web that is collecting x86 ROMs and his collection is incomplete, I don't have his website handy but it's on xlr8yourmac.com somewhere, you can send this to him and he'll have it up for everyone with PCs to download. Then (and this is where I think a lot of flashing attempts failed) the flasher will ask for the name of the NEW flash ROM file that you want to install into the card. This is why you have to have the new flasher in the same folder as the old one, because you have to type in the name of the new flash file to be installed. If you have the V3 2000, you need to type: 3dfx-v3-2000.img, if you have the V3 3000 you need to type 3dfx-v3-3000.img. None of the instructions on the web that I'd seen specifically mentioned this and the first time I tried to flash my card it didn't work, all because I didn't type in the name of the image to flash.Regards, ~Michael] HardDrive drivers from 7.5.3 not being updated unless the disk is initialized?: Michael also sent some info on an issue he had with his hard drives drivers not being updated from the ones installed by OS 7.5.3 no matter which version of Apples Drive Setup he used until he initialized his drive. Once he initialized the drive with a newer driver, subsequent driver updates worked fine. I don't recall having this problem as my OS updates all reported fine as he noted his did but I never checked to see if the driver was actually updated. My HD has been formatted awhile ago so I can no longer check. If this is true then some of you having problems with newer OS's might try initializing the HD if you never have as your HD driver may be outdated? Thanks Michael. [My 6400 had 7.5.3 installed from the start, and I already had the Mac OS 8 CD when I got my 6400 and so obviously wanted to put Mac OS 8 on there.(I had been running Mac OS 8 or maybe it was 8.1 on my 6200 already.) The installation of Mac OS 8 worked flawlessly--and it even SAID that it updated the disk drivers during the installation. But guess what? Clicking on the hard disk one time, then getting information on it revealed that it still had the OLD disk drivers! No matter how many times I used Drive Setup to update the disk drivers, no matter WHICH VERSION or on which machine since then (both mine and others), a Mac formatted this far back had to be Reformatted again if the newer disk drivers were going to take hold. Since my 6400 was brand new way back then anyway, I went ahead and formatted it, and by the time I had Mac OS 8.1 installed it had the proper drivers. Even installing later drivers without installing later OSes worked at that point.(And it never did before doing the format.) There is a TIL that tells all about "Why isn't my hard disk driver version updating" or something to that effect over at apple.com that details this very thing.] The HD version as noted in the GetInfo window of my HD for my 6400 with OS 9.0.4 is version 3.2.5. This is using Apples DriveSetup 1.9.2 from OS 9. Using 128M 4k DIMMS that are cheaper then 64M 2k DIMMS on a 6400?: Michael also sent me some news on his 128M DIMM and how he saved money by purchasing more 128M DIMMS instead of 64M DIMMS. Now don't get confused by this! They are only showing 64M each as that is all the 6400/6500 memory controller can access but if it saves you money and they work then why not try? [I have some more news that might interest you. Remember that 128MB DIMM I bought that supposedly refreshed at 2K, made from 4K chips? Well the DIMM has worked flawlessly all this time (as a 64MB DIMM). So why am I bringing this up? Well I recently visited my girlfriend's place and spent some time upgrading her 6400/180. I promised her that I would give her some additional RAM if she decided to put a G3 in her 6400 and she took me up on it, so this left me with a need for another 64MB, to fill the empty slot in mine. So I ordered more RAM for myself--and I had to stop myself halfway. I ordered another 128MB, 4K refresh DIMM. Why? Well the 64MB, 2K refresh DIMMs are as much as $180 these days, whereas you can visit ramseeker.com to find 128MB, 4K refresh DIMMs for all of about $80 or $90. We already know that a 128MB 2K refresh DIMM made from 4K refresh rated chips will function in the 6400 and show 1/2 the RAM amount, and we also know that 4K refresh DIMMs will also show 1/2 the RAM amount. So if you have a 6360/6400/6500--WHY IN THE HECK would you spend twice as much for simply a 64MB 2K refresh rated DIMM when a 128MB 4K rated DIMM will do exactly the same thing? Something to think about. My second 128MB DIMM is happily functioning and saving me a little money as well. :) The RAM that is cheaper, is the 128MB 4k 168-pin DIMMs, identical in every way to what the 6400 needs except it's not 2k refresh. The 2k refresh 128MB DIMMs are almost as expensive as the 4k 64MB DIMMs, so this leads me to believe that it is just more expensive to make the bigger, faster refresh DIMMs for the few Macs that require them.(Like ours.) But then there are also more people with the 7200-9600 type Macs.Regards, ~Michael] This is a try at your own risk thing. Michael states it works fine but I just thought I would warn people that this is not in any way a supported mod! If you try then please let me know. Thanks Farallon COMM II card user experience with tech support: Rick wanted to let me know how well his call to tech support went with Farallon when he found that his COMM II ethernet card was not working. Apple should take note of this :) Thanks Rick. [Well Tom, It was the card. Farallon! I can't say anything bad about them. Check this out! They have a toll free number for tech support. There is no menu when they answer the phone, you get to talk to real person. They check up on you with your problem and I was even given a direct number to the supervisor of tech support. WOW! So this young lady named Katie (the supervisor of Tech support)worked with me over the phone and then sent me another CommII card without me sending the other card back. She sent it UPS blue and I got it in two days. Well, remember the original cards data light would not light. The new card does. As soon as I put it in the connect LED came on and so far so good. I'll be sending the bad card back. I have know idea what is wrong with it. It's funny it even worked at all. The USB card has been no impact, nor do any of the USB drivers. I'm back in pleasantville. One question though....the CommII manual says you must have AppleTalk active and I'm not real happy about that. If someone one on the same cable network has a Mac they could get into my system! Do you know what can be done cheaply? Eventually I'll be purchasing a Linksys hub/router for the other computers in house, but until then what do you suggest? Please give Farallon the credit they're due on your page and I'll point Katie to it....Thanks! RICK] Yellow Dog Linux Server on a non-G3 upgraded 6400: Mike writes that he got YDL to run fine on his 6400/180 with a newer 2.2.17 kernel. Thanks Mike. Click here for more Linux info. [BTW, I can verify that Yellow Dog Linux Champion Server 1.2 works very well on a plain 6400/180 once you upgrade the YDL CD installation with the newer Linux 2.2.17 kernel and modules available at the YDL website. Even sound works beautifully: <http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/> Peace. Mike] Reader Requests updated: Doug is having some serious SCSI issues on his 6400. Click here for more info. Robert is having trouble capturing video with iMovie. Click here for more info. Thanks. 4x4 EVO test updated: They just released TEST2 for download. It includes more vehicles and other improvements. Click here to read more and download. I was unable to last night as traffic on their server must have been high? Update on HP slide adaptor for scanners: VESPark sent me some more info (based on info I posted 2 years ago from Dave) on the HP slide adaptor for their scanners for use with other scanners. Thanks VESPark. [Perhaps you would like the info listed below in case someone inquires about a less expensive slide adapter for a scanner, we do not know for sure if this adapter will work on all manufacturers scanners. I am going to order the C7180A because it is for 600dpi scanners, my scanner is an Epson ES-1000C 400dpi, not sure if dpi makes a difference but I picked the C7180A for the lower dpi? I will let you know the results, that is if works or does not work??? Scanner Accessories HP Slide Adapter for ScanJet 5200, 6200 and 6300 $19.95 C7191A-ABA Slide Adapter for ScanJet 5300 $19.95 C7691A Slide Adapter for ScanJet 3c, 4c and 6100C Scanners $19.95 C7180A Ordering info below: http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpdirect/shopping/scripts/home/start_home.jsp Click on the link above and then do a search for the part number listed above your interested in. I cannot make direct links :(

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